CSA Manager & Assistant Farm Manager , Lynchburg VA

Full-time
Salaried

CSA Management
· Work with the Farm Manager to develop a production plan to maximize revenue producing potential through the sale of the most marketable produce
· Plan and organize weekly CSA distribution with produce grown at Lynchburg Grows and by supplementing from local farmers
· Write weekly CSA email, set up and break down CSA, and see to customer needs during pickup
· Process payments and CSA membership registration
· Sell produce to local restaurants
· Help with communications at Lynchburg Grows through answering phone, scheduling tours and volunteer groups, and responding to emails.

Assist with day-to-day running of all aspects of the farm
· Ensure all employees have meaningful tasks throughout the day
· Assist Farm Manager with farm needs

Greenhouse Management
· Prepare raised beds for planting
· Assist Farm Manager to ensure raised beds are well managed and on production schedule
· Work to enhance the aesthetics and orderly function of Lynchburg Grows grounds, packing shed, and work areas.

Supervision of volunteers and visitors
· Work with volunteers, school groups, and other visitors to make the farm a safe and interesting learning environment
· Give guided tours when needed
· Ensure volunteers are given task suited to their ability and understand directions for fulfilling tasks

Produce processing
· Ensure produce is properly washed and weighed for CSA and restaurant sales
· Oversee quality control of triple-washing of greens
· Ensure all produce is bagged or bunched at proper weight determined by CSA or Farm Manager
· Train and assist all employees on proper handling and washing of produce

Assist with Veggie Van
· Fill in as driver or volunteer as needed
· Knowledge of van route and schedule
· Assist with loading of van and ensuring volunteers have all necessary items for route
· Prepare price list for van produce
· Organize produce for van route each week

Maintain historic roses
· Work with the farm manager to oversee maintenance of all roses in Greenhouse 3
· Inspect and treat for any pests
· Harvest and sell roses weekly during growing season

Other
· Undertake any other duties as and when required such as assisting with fundraising events and campaigns

Qualifications
Two years minimum farming experience
Bachelor’s Degree
Excellent organizational and multitasking abilities
Appropriate computer skills, including proficiency with Microsoft Office and some understanding of Adobe Suite.
Proven ability to work under minimum supervision and to make decisions and solve problems independently, effectively, and creatively.
Comfort with ambiguity, the ability to respond adeptly to rapidly changing priorities, and ability to work well under pressure.
Experience with the use of social media for marketing campaigns.
Excellent verbal and written communication skills.
Mission-minded with a strong interest in urban agriculture, working with special needs individuals and supporting regional food systems.
Demonstrated success in working as a member of a team and developing effective working relationships with Board members, staff, volunteers, the general public, and donors.

Please note: Lynchburg Grows is a non-profit, public benefit 501c(3) corporation and operates as an equal opportunity employer. This job description is general in nature and is not designed to contain or to be interpreted as a comprehensive inventory of all duties, responsibilities and qualifications of the position.

If interested: Please e-mail your resume, cover letter (detailing relevant past experience), and 2 references to shelley@lynchburggrows.org.

Educator/Market Gardener Ephrata, Washington

Cloudview Farm

Educator/ Market Gardener (full-time paid position)

Cloudview Farm offers a variety of on-farm experiences for student and community groups. We are seeking an educator who can both maintain our current offerings and develop Cloudview Farms’ programming. The educator will also help with garden operations. To give visitors a more authentic experience the Educator/ Market Gardener should be familiar with the gardens and animals.

Most visitors are preschool-3rd graders that come for 90-minute field trips and choose between a six plant part lesson and a plant life-cycle curriculum. In 2016, we offered summer day camps for the first time and hope to expand our camps and programming when school is not in session. We also collaborate with an elementary school on a door-to-door school fundraiser selling carrots. As new groups approach us with unique goals we innovate to meet their needs. Also in 2016, first-time visitors included culinary students from and area technical high school, wheelchair-bound patients from a physical rehabilitation center, and a professional teacher training academy.

Job responsibilities:

Support and maintain current garden education programming
Lead approximately 30 preschool-3rd grade student field trips in the spring and fall with groups of 10 to 60 students.
Organize and manage summer day camps
Host 10 to 15 8th grade students from Lakeside Middle School in Seattle for one week in the fall.
Emcee the Annual Fall Festival during the 1st Saturday in October.
Promote and expand garden education programming
Promote education programs through social media, website, and email announcements
Coordinate with other farm and garden staff to develop gardens and property that support programming
Give public presentations
Work in the garden to support the CSA and farmers’ market programs
Harvest, wash, and pack produce
Provide garden labor including weeding, mowing, cultivating, seeding, transplanting
Participate in CSA box deliveries

Skills and Experience:
At least 2 years outdoor education experience, management preferred
Farm or garden experience

Compensation: $21,000-$24,000/ yr.

Housing, utilities, trash, internet, and farm food included

To learn more about Cloudview Farm visit http://www.cloudviewfarm.org.

To apply for this position, please send a cover letter and resume to cloudviewephrata@gmail.com.

Educaion and Outreach Manager, Global Growers, Atlanta, GA

Position Summary
The Education and Outreach Manager is responsible for managing Global Growers education and outreach program that serves aspiring, beginning, and advanced commercial farmers. The Manager will supervise a small team of farm educators who coordinate training and technical assistance at Global Growers’ incubator farm, as well as through statewide outreach and a new land access project.

The primary emphasis will be on the incubator farm program focused on land-based training for beginning farmers to accelerate farm business development. Statewide outreach is focused on technical assistance in food safety, business management, and market readiness for small and mid-sized vegetable farms, as well as coordinating services with other organizations and farmer groups. The land access project is a partnership with The Conservation Fund to connect landless farmers with lease-to-own land opportunities. The position is based in Stone Mountain, GA, and reports to the Director of Programs.

Candidate Profile
The ideal candidate has excellent project and personnel management skills, along with experience in adult education. The candidate also has an understanding of the challenges and possibilities related to local food systems. They have an understanding of racial and social justice issues impacting Southern agriculture as well as experience working for equity of access and opportunity for all. The ideal candidate has experience working in multilingual spaces. The candidate should be able to motivate others to action and influence positive outcomes. They will be comfortable working independently and remotely as well as in a team environment. Most importantly, the candidate will believe in and feel connected to the mission of Global Growers and the idea that our food system can and should be democratized.

Anticipated Program Outcomes
Farmers at the incubator farm and throughout Georgia make progress towards identified educational objectives related to business development and market access
Education activities are managed with coherent planning, implementation tools, evaluation methods, and future strategy development
Farmer outreach strategies are considerate of racial and social justice issues impacting Southern agriculture, and service delivery is culturally and linguistically appropriate
Portfolio of farmer educational resources is curated and maintained
Programs are compliant with grants, contracts, and funder requirements.
Necessary program data is collected regularly, thoroughly and reliably for grant reporting, development use, and other agreed upon purposes.
Consistent and productive supervision is provided to Education staff and interns
Engage in recruitment, hiring, and onboarding as necessary, in conjunction with Director of Programs
Activities are planned and implemented with appropriate collaboration with Community Development, Sales, and Farm Operations teams so that all activities have needed alignment, scaffolding, and resource management systems
Program budget is developed and tracked with effective resource management systems and with monthly reports provided to Director of Programs

Qualifications
At least two years experience in adult education
At least two years experience in project management
At least two years experience with personnel management
Experience in food production, food distribution, on-farm work, or farmer services
Experience working in multilingual spaces
Experience working with federal contracts and grant deliverables
Experience analyzing data using Excel
Understanding of social and racial justice issues impacting agriculture in the South
Understanding of basic farm financial management processes
Requirements

Valid driver’s license, clean driving record and access to a reliable vehicle
Flexible work hours to accommodate some evening and weekend work with corresponding days off
Ability to travel regionally for on-farm visits, meetings, conferences and workshops, approximately 10-15% of the time
Compensation

Pay commensurate with experience in the range of $35,000 to $45,000 annualized with benefits including: Workers comp, health insurance reimbursement account, paid time off, professional development funds

Application Instructions
Submit resume (eom.lastname.res) and cover letter (eom.lastname.cl) to hr@globalgrowers.org with the subject line: “eom.[your last name].”

Deadline: August 20th, 2017

 

Ag. Program Coordinator, Frankfort, KY

Department of Agriculture

Characteristics of the Job: Coordinates a statewide program area administered by the Department of Agriculture; and performs other duties as required.

Minimum Requirement – High school graduate.
Minimum Requirement – Experience : Five years of administrative or inspection experience in agricultural programs. Substitute Education for Experience : Vocational or technical training in agriculture or a related field will substitute for the experience on a year-for-year basis up to a maximum of two years.

Position Type: Pay Grade 12 (MIN-MID) $29,129.28 – $38,588.64 yearly at 37.5 hour work week. or $31,071.12 – $41,161.20 yearly at 40 hour work week

Description of Job Duties
Coordinate on a statewide basis the Senior Farmer Market Program, Farm to School Program, & the Junior Chef Program administered by the Department of Agriculture; and performs other duties as required.Coordinate on a statewide basis the expansion & growth of the Senior Farmer Market Program, Farm to School Program, & the Junior Chef Program to help both producers, schools, seniors & students across the state. Attend annual meetings/conferences as well as Webinars & other required continuing education. Maintain program files & websites. Maintain & update monthly
newsletters.Senior Farmer Market Program: Coordinate & Train producers for the actual use & acceptance of product at market. Coordinate & train market managers on guidelines they must follow in order to be a credited Farmers Market. Coordinate and train individuals responsible for recording & distributing coupons to seniors.Review markets, farmers & distribution agencies yearly for compliance with regulations.Create/Review & Amend the State Plan annually. Process voucher reconciliation on a daily and monthly basis by monitoring & updating database on each producer/county and determine the redemption rate, as well as, reconcile any unredeemed vouchers. Collect and record program data within websites and files. Farm to School: Coordinate/provide trainings/technical support to Food Service Directors, Producers & entities that participate in the Program. Assist with food safety, procurement, bid reviewing & federal guidelines to maintain compliance. Aid in program development such as; curriculum, resource guide & brochures. Introduce local product/producers to food manufactures to further the Program.Junior Chef Program: Coordinate and Administer statewide culinary competition for grades 8th – 12th. Includes statewide promotion; recording all entries; determine & organize all district,
regional, state & national competitions; secure awards; and provide information for printing state booklet. Organize competitor’s schedules, hotel rooms, tours, summer workshops, gate passes & travel.Review recipes for compliance with federal meal pattern standards, public speaking & promotion via Webinars, etc. Develop Judging guidelines & provide technical assistance for the judges.Coordinate the judging schedule. Provide technical assistance for team coaches & students.Coordinate the judging schedule. Provide technical assistance for team coaches & students.Other duties as assigned.

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Community Garden Developer, Atlanta, GA

GREENLEAF FARM
TYPE: Full-Time
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
Greenleaf is not your typical farming operation. We don’t know much about farming at all, but we have an idea and boundless passion around it. Greenleaf is primarily an owner of apartment buildings in the Southeast, based in Atlanta. We started with one small apartment community on Edgewood Ave ten years ago and now have thousands of families that depend upon our team to provide safe, reliable housing that meets their needs. As we have grown, we are continually looking to change the way communities live, interact and eat. Our goal is to provide an organic food source to families so that they can provide one meal every day for their entire family. To achieve this goal we are actively expanding our community garden programs throughout our communities, providing an on site recurring food source. It is quite a challenge and it wont be easy. If you are passionate about changing how communities interact with food, eager to get your hands dirty in building gardens, chicken coops and chasing around some goats, then this is probably the opportunity for you.

JOB DESCRIPTION
We are looking for someone who wants to be on the front line of building, developing, teaching and engaging the community around community food production.
At the core of this role will be the passion and drive to build production capabilities for locally grown organic foods and share your experience and knowledge with the community. Functionally we will be constructing and maintaining community gardens throughout the greater Atlanta area along with a farm operation in North Georgia.
Here is a sample of our first garden that our team built!

COMPENSATION:
Salaried, 50k to 100k

HOW TO APPLY
Email dave@greenleafmgmt.com. Send your resume and your story of why this sounds like the dream position for you!

Internship, CCYA, Cobb County, GA

Job Title: “Blooming with Possibilities” Program Specialist Internship Type: Part-Time Compensation: $15 – $20/hour based on experience after probationary period (one month) Supervision: Reports to the COO for all Program Team responsibilities and CAO for all Development Team responsibilities. Works closely with the Cobb Master Gardeners, Director of Youth Activities & Volunteer Services, Development Specialist, and Life Skills Education Manager. Team Designation: This position serves on the Program Team, Meal Services Team, and the Development Team. Job Description: Assist in the maintenance and development of the Campus Garden and Farm: Native Plant Garden, Pollinator Garden, Berry Patches, Cutting Garden, Vegetable Garden, Herb Garden, Vine-Vegetable Garden. Manage Chicken Coop and future additions. Coordinate and Manage youth apprenticeships, assist in arranging cooking classes; and support development department activities. Applicable Skills: Knowledge of irrigation, plants, insects and plant disease; familiarity with tools and equipment used; proficient with spreadsheet and word processing applications; ability to read and assess statistical and operational reports; good interpersonal, team building, organizational and management skills. Physical Demands: Must be able to lift/carry materials up to 50lbs, move about the work site, turn on and operate a computer in the applicable environment, communicate efficiently and effectively on the telephone or in person, and complete required paperwork. Exposed to dust, pollen, chemicals, cold and heat in an external environment. Requires extended periods of walking, standing, kneeling, bending and lifting, up to 100% of a workday. Working Conditions: External environment with all weather and terrain exposure. Exposed to equipment that may cause cuts and significant bodily injury. Safety equipment includes gloves, work boots, proper clothing. Qualifications: • Bachelor’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy, or related fields of study, or Associate’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy or related fields with

Applicable Skills: Knowledge of irrigation, plants, insects and plant disease; familiarity with tools and equipment used; proficient with spreadsheet and word processing applications; ability to read and assess statistical and operational reports; good interpersonal, team building, organizational and management skills. Physical Demands: Must be able to lift/carry materials up to 50lbs, move about the work site, turn on and operate a computer in the applicable environment, communicate efficiently and effectively on the telephone or in person, and complete required paperwork. Exposed to dust, pollen, chemicals, cold and heat in an external environment. Requires extended periods of walking, standing, kneeling, bending and lifting, up to 100% of a workday. Working Conditions: External environment with all weather and terrain exposure. Exposed to equipment that may cause cuts and significant bodily injury. Safety equipment includes gloves, work boots, proper clothing. Qualifications: • Bachelor’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy, or related fields of study, or Associate’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy or related fields with

Type: Part-Time Compensation: $15 – $20/hour based on experience after probationary period (one month)

Supervision: Reports to the COO for all Program Team responsibilities and CAO for all Development Team responsibilities. Works closely with the Cobb Master Gardeners, Director of Youth Activities & Volunteer Services, Development Specialist, and Life Skills Education Manager. Team Designation: This position serves on the Program Team, Meal Services Team, and the Development Team.

Job Description: Assist in the maintenance and development of the Campus Garden and Farm: Native Plant Garden, Pollinator Garden, Berry Patches, Cutting Garden, Vegetable Garden, Herb Garden, Vine-Vegetable Garden. Manage Chicken Coop and future additions. Coordinate and Manage youth apprenticeships, assist in arranging cooking classes; and support development department activities. Applicable Skills: Knowledge of irrigation, plants, insects and plant disease; familiarity with tools and equipment used; proficient with spreadsheet and word processing applications; ability to read and assess statistical and operational reports; good interpersonal, team building, organizational and management skills. Physical Demands: Must be able to lift/carry materials up to 50lbs, move about the work site, turn on and operate a computer in the applicable environment, communicate efficiently and effectively on the telephone or in person, and complete required paperwork. Exposed to dust, pollen, chemicals, cold and heat in an external environment. Requires extended periods of walking, standing, kneeling, bending and lifting, up to 100% of a workday. Working Conditions: External environment with all weather and terrain exposure. Exposed to equipment that may cause cuts and significant bodily injury. Safety equipment includes gloves, work boots, proper clothing. Qualifications: • Bachelor’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy, or related fields of study, or Associate’s degree in Horticulture (preferred), Agronomy or related fields with a minimum of a 3 years experience in landscape management operations. May be enrolled in a degree program as above. • Working knowledge of planting calendars for spring, summer, and fall harvests (preferred); • Working knowledge of landscape restoration and revegetation (preferred); • Enjoy sharing your knowledge with others and teaching youth about gardening; • Understand the importance of growing plants as a demonstration of sustainability and leading by example.

Other duties: • Strategic Planning for the gardening & harvesting season with Master Gardeners, Kitchen Manager and Chefs; • Coordinate vegetable crop rotations and planting of cover crops in off season; • Supervise Youth Apprenticeships and Create duty work/chore schedules; • Develop and maintain irrigation plan; • Work with Master Gardeners and other organizations to broaden scope of garden; e.g. implementing Hoop House for winter crops; • Work with Life Skills Instructor to create educational Agriculture, Botany, Nutrition and Farming workshops for youth residents to provide learning opportunities and create interest in the garden by youth residents; • Have interest in farm animals including chickens, potentially pygmy goats and be open to possibility of bee aviary to be added to garden program in future; • Speak to tour groups; • Collect data and information for garden grants and work collaboratively with Development Team to seek funding opportunities for garden, cooking classes and other related activities; • Assist cooking classes and work collaboratively with cooking instructors to provide resources for skill building activities; • Coordinate and facilitate garden work with volunteer director to engage corporations and groups wishing to volunteer at CCYA. • Maintain inventory of tools and equipment for animals and garden; • Purchase feed and necessities for chickens. Garden Responsibilities using youth apprenticeships: • Supervise and manage youth responsibilities; • Establish youth schedule and review and submit timesheets; • Weeding, watering, planting, mulching, and harvesting of garden produce; Weigh, record, and deliver all produce to Kitchen Manager and Chefs; • Oversee care of chickens – including feeding, securing safety, cleaning, of up to 24 chickens. Oversee gathering of eggs daily; • Create system to dry chicken manure for fertilizer; • Oversee composting system; • Manage irrigation systems.

For more information, contact Victor Brown at vbrown@ccyakids.org

 

Farm Manager, Chatanooga, TN

Position: Farm Manager

Terms: Full-Time, salaried position open now

General Overview:
Crabtree Farms is a non-profit organization that is home to an urban
teaching farm, Chattanooga’s local food program, and myriad
education opportunities for all ages. Located on 22 acres, our total
land under cultivation ranges from four to five acres and supports a 100+ person 31-week CSA, weekly offerings at the local year-round farmers market, and produce to local restaurants and food artisans. The small staff of farmers work with a daily rotation of volunteers to run the farming operations. Some volunteers have a weekly schedule
and season-long commitment, while the rest comprise a shifting array of regulars, curious community members, and service groups.
We grow over 120 varieties of fruit and vegetable and raise a couple goats for program animals (petting and education). Farm and greenhouse staff manage maintenance of grounds and equipment and are key to the successful planning and facilitation of several fundraising events each year. Additionally, the farm plays host to several annual Crabtree Farms events, field trips for school-age youth, workshops, community events, and more.

Job Description:
This is a salaried, full-time position, which encompasses many aspects of the Urban Farm. This position reports directly to the Executive Director and works closely with the management team comprised of the Greenhouse Manager, Community Partnerships Manager, and Farm Manager. Duties for this position include, but are not
limited to:
• Planning and implementing growing, greenhouse, and ground preparation calendars
• Ensuring farm remains a safe, enjoyable place for volunteers, school groups, and general public
• Directing harvesting and post-harvest processing
• Facilitating general farm maintenance
• Overseeing crop maintenance such as weeding, cultivating, planting, and mowing
• Working with and directing volunteers and a small, dedicated staff
• As needed, there will be additional duties depending on the needs of the farm
• Administrative tasks will be assigned as necessary
• Other responsibilities are outlined below

Qualifications:
The Farm Manager must be experienced in all aspects of the farm, specifically in sustainable methods of vegetable, fruit and flower production. The individual should have excellent organizational skills, the ability to communicate clearly with staff and customers, be creative, and must maintain a high standard of quality control. The ideal
candidate will be self-motivated, have good time management, and be able to make decisions quickly as circumstances change. The FM will need to carry out procedures involved in all jobs, and must understand and implement the appropriate planting, pruning and harvesting schedules. This position demands a person who is dependable, reliable, and self-motivated. The candidate must be physically
capable of performing job duties. The candidate must be prepared to work in potentially adverse conditions, such as high heat, rain, etc. Other qualifications include:
• Experience: 3+ years, preferably one year with a community farm
• CSA experience
• Mechanical, carpentry, and plumbing experience
• Friendly, outgoing personality willing to work with the public and those interested in
farming/gardening
• Proficient with the Microsoft Office Suite
• Experience with Quickbooks
• Detail Oriented, use of common sense
• Clear and effective communicationThis position is largely an outdoor position. Crabtree Farms is a beautiful place to work, but time there must be

This position is largely an outdoor position. Crabtree Farms is a beautiful place to work, but time there must be spent productively. This job is ideal for a person that enjoys multi-tasking, jumping from project to project and who is not thrown off task easily. This job requires someone who is focused, stays on task, and can get the tasks
completed amidst the busy environment.

Key responsibilities:
1. Works closely with the Volunteer Coordinator, Greenhouse Manager and Assistant FM in leadership and management of volunteer and intern activities on the Farm. This includes delegating tasks, monitoring quality of work, and providing a positive work environment and educational instruction.
2. Chooses WorkShare participants for the season, creates their schedule, and monitors their hours throughout the season. The FM is responsible for making sure that all WorkShare are meeting their commitments and must address anyone that is not.
3. Keeps record of the crops: ground preparation, amendment, planting times, locations and harvests. During the growing season, this will include proper maintenance of summer crops through cultivation, fertilization, and spraying for pests/disease as needed.
4. Ensures that proper soil samples are taken in the winter and will need a basic understanding in reading
soil samples in order to create an amendment plan for the working season.
5. Is responsible for proper storage of all vegetables. In doing this, the FM will also monitor the condition of
storage and harvest bins ensuring that there are plenty to use throughout the season. This also includes making sure that the farm has adequate supplies necessary for packing produce which includes wax boxes, paper and plastic produce bags, paper bags, rubber bands, and herb bags.
6. Manages the marketing of produce as needed seasonally, as well as packing for orders in an efficient and organized manner. Quality control is essential to ensure no mistakes are made in this process.
7. Manages the full- and holiday-season CSAs, which includes the related paperwork, coordinating the daily harvests, maintaining high-quality standards, and ensuring that the year’s boxes are meeting their estimated value. Collaborates with the Assistant Farm Manager to effectively and efficiently supervise running the farm and its finances
8. Plans the next season. This includes crop profit analyses, crop rotations, adjustments in crop variety and quantity, the seed order for the Urban Farm and plant sales, soil tests and the calculations and ordering of soil amendments, and the Deerfield order for farm and greenhouse supplies. Additionally, the FM collaborates on the construction and execution of the winter list of duties, usually comprising large-scale projects and maintenance.
9. Oversees general care of all implements and machinery. The machinery should be in good working order and receive annual tune-ups.
10. Maintains the barn. This involves keeping tools in working order and annually cleaning and sharpening tools. It also includes making sure the trash, recycling and compost are taken out on time and that the farm has proper trash bags. The FM will manage all staff’s use of the barn and tools to ensure proper usage and placement.
11. Tractor work on the farm. This includes managing the ground preparation calendar, noting weather conditions, and ensuring implementation. Amendments and cover crop implementation are also the responsibility of the FM.
12. Manages all irrigation equipment, including proper storage, assessment of needs, and ordering parts needed ahead of schedule.
13. Shares in the general responsibilities of all Crabtree staff. These duties may include, but are not limited to: grounds maintenance; cleaning and maintenance of the building and facilities; preparation, execution, and clean-up for special events and workshops; care and maintenance of shared equipment and systems such as compost, garbage, and recycling; care, feeding, and maintenance of farm animals; and greeting and assisting the general public.

Benefits:
The greatest benefits are the access to healthy food, fresh air, honest work, new skills, great people, and passionate coworkers.
– United Healthcare health insurance.
– One half-share CSA membership each season
– Two weeks paid vacation; normal vacation regulations apply
– Professional development funds available to be applied for and learning reported on
– SIMPLE IRA with employer match program
– Yearly salary of $25-30,000

To Apply:
Send Cover Letter and Resume to:
MAIL: Crabtree Farms
FM Search
PO Box 2250
Chattanooga, TN 37409
FAX: 423/624-7439
EMAIL: smcintyre@crabtreefarms.org

Deadline: Until position filled; as soon as possible preferred as the position is open now